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Starcraft: Ashfall

225 points by debo_ - 73 comments
ggnore7452 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Wow, thanks to whoever posted this! I made this game.

Like many, I was frustrated there's no new StarCraft coming till 2030, so I half-jokingly made the mini-game those mobile ads always promise and never deliver. Something you can play with one hand, that your friends who've never played StarCraft can just pick up.(Turns out you can squeeze a lot of extra gameplay/design on top of it.)

Also, if you're going to copy Blizzard you might as well copy the whole package right, so there's a CG trailer too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVDao71LC7A

Honestly didn't expect people to grind this. I designed the endgame to be layer 50 and thought ppl can get at most ~70 if they really try, and somehow there are people on the leaderboard past 100 (without cheating). That's StarCraft players for you.

debo_ [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Hi I posted it. I'm just a guy in the chat who saw it on YouTube.
gbnwl [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Reddit thread from about a month ago where creator introduced this: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1wqdabw/i_made_t...
neko_ranger [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Wow someone made the youtube ad game!
butlike [3 hidden]5 mins ago
There's also pinball and an asteroids-like game if you click the "Arcade" button next to where it says "Ashfall Crossing"
gs17 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
A shame if they don't recreate the Lost Viking game from Wings of Liberty itself.
dxcqcv [3 hidden]5 mins ago
cool, give me more
bulbar [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Cool visuals, but doesn't count as a game for me. Can you do anything that make sense, except selecting the upgrade?

Could be a nice little game, though. Strip the IP and let the AI implement a bit more for the user to do.

p2detar [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It’s actually very addicting once you play a couple of sessions. The scoreboard is crazy. Still don’t know how anyone makes it past wave (layer) 35-37.
nicce [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I got around 42. Protos commander felt stronger for the effort.
andai [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's like cookie clicker, with less clicking and more blood!
AngryData [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Once you get high enough you can switch commanders which gives additional upgrades and active powers.
an0malous [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I've been seeing a lot of Pokemon games recently as well, are companies just not enforcing their copyright/trademarks anymore?
nilamo [3 hidden]5 mins ago
They can't sue everyone, comrade. AI tools will hopefully trigger a rewrite of what copyright means, it's always been silly that it prevents derivitive works.
steelframe [3 hidden]5 mins ago
When it comes to copyright, I am not so optimistic. When the AI bubble bursts, the usual corporate interests will resurface with a vengeance.
lelanthran [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> AI tools will hopefully trigger a rewrite of what copyright means,

Maybe it will, but this ain't a copyright issues, it's a trademark issue.

nilamo [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's a legal issue, and the legal part has always been bullshit regardless of which specific label happens to apply.
syspec [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Surprised to see this level of discourse here on HN, reads like a reddit comment.

Copyright sucks, and Disney is bad etc, but how is using StarCraft and its assets in your random AI game okay?

I mean, creators should be allowed to exert control over how their assets and brand are used.

nilamo [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I've always found that defending laws that don't benefit people to be a stange attitude on a place called "hacker news".

Creative people should be able to create. Trademark/copyright laws, protecting assets for the great-grandchildren of who actually created the art, has never been a positive. The only people who benefit, are themselves not creative (or else they would create, instead of defending "rights" and "image").

59percentmore [3 hidden]5 mins ago
>Copyright sucks, and Disney is bad etc, but how is using StarCraft and its assets in your random AI game okay?

Because it's cool.

Supermancho [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The number of conglomerates has, unsurprisingly, continued to shrink. It's long overdue for a rethink. Maybe if the US political system ever stabilizes, we might get to it in a hundred years. Until then Copyright sucks and Disney is bad.
sharkjacobs [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> creators should be allowed to exert control over how their assets and brand are used

I hate to be glib, but no they shouldn't.

Creators should be allowed to create things and sell them. No one, whether the creator, or the company the creator worked for when they first created the thing, should be able to stop someone else from creating something.

deadbabe [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Couldn’t they just use AI to sue at scale? No one should be too small to go after now.
creakingstairs [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The court system is too bogged up as it is with the current load. So I guess we’d have to create some AI judges and lawyers :p
bhhaskin [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Yeah the law firms just haven't caught up yet. But they will.
nilamo [3 hidden]5 mins ago
And when the judges get around to the case in 300 years after all the other ai court cases, we'll be beyond caring about the consequences.
Legend2440 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Law firms are cautious about AI tools, they got burned a couple years ago by hallucinated citations.

Citing made-up cases sure looks like lying to the court, which is a punishable offense. Lawyers have been sanctioned, fined, and in one case received a 30-day license suspension.

ForHackernews [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's a totally original creation laundered through LLM derivative works.
larodi [3 hidden]5 mins ago
they may well be busy surviving AI induced chain reactions letting lots of people out of work.
temp0826 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
This is the second (probably vibecoded?) game in the last few days that I've seen using blizzard ip (the other being d2survivors.lol)
sharkjacobs [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's not a fun game, but it's cool anyway
mastax [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Game basically plays itself but fun nonetheless
croon [3 hidden]5 mins ago
For 10-15 levels or so, then your upgrade choices start to matter.

I only played through it once, but I'm convinced I'd do better on a second run, and a third, etc.

karim79 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The satisfying pop of the zerglings alone make it fun for me.
buf [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Saw Starcraft, spent 30 minutes living the nostalgia playing this.
j7ake [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Game crashes when trying to fuse units
smallmancontrov [3 hidden]5 mins ago
THE MERGING IS NOT COMPLETE
malfist [3 hidden]5 mins ago
You must build additional pylons
andai [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Fun game.

I have to pick a new upgrade every 3 seconds. I thought they did that to stave off boredom, but actually it increases decision fatigue. (I just wanna shoot!)

no-name-here [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I did not touch the controls at all, and I still won with zero losses on the first level - that does not inspire confidence.
itishappy [3 hidden]5 mins ago
In snowball games like this, losing a unit marks the beginning of the end. As such, you really have to go out of your way to lose units in the tutorial.
coralreef [3 hidden]5 mins ago
controls aren't important, upgrade/tech choices are
nafey [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Is this AI generated? Pretty impressive if that is the case
blueblock [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Definitely smells like ai. I don't think a human would spend so much time on the graphics and effects and not have streamlined the gameplay a bit.
NorthernGulch [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The opposite would be correct. AI generated is the norm, and it would be impressive to spend xxx hours creating this when AI can do it in 4 hours
datsci_est_2015 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Assets are very easily duplicated because of the editor that ships with the game. Not as impressive as it would be if it were other games with more tightly-locked assets.
dmix [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Great game. It took me way too long to figure out I could use keyboard to control the positioning instead of mouse.
lai [3 hidden]5 mins ago
So what's the meta?
Noe2097 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
there is no meta but what we vibe
lai [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I'm noticing that armor pen is super important later on. However, eventually get rekt.. I'm curious how the top person got to the layer he is in now. I'm stuck at layer 26.
butlike [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's nice to know Stimpack marines still roll face.
debo_ [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Ahhhh yeahhhh
theogravity [3 hidden]5 mins ago
That was pretty enjoyable. Definitely like the ads you see online but with IP people care about.
marvstazar [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I was wondering why there was a dragon there, is it from Wrath of the Lich King?
tdhz77 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Lots of fun! Wish StarCraft would come out every year
hirako2000 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Too busy making the new StarCraft.
spicyusername [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Ah, the music is so nostalgic. Really takes me back.
ReptileMan [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Big game hunters Terran vs 7PC zergs. Same feeling.
karim79 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Cool game, but isn't this going to make blizzard bring out the big guns?
jmcdonald-ut [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Great work on this, had a blast!
debo_ [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I did not make this, for the record. I just found it.
kixpanganiban [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Perfect, who needed to be productive anyways
lofaszvanitt [3 hidden]5 mins ago
A mix of everything. Stolen from everywhere. We have AI, but people are still the bottleneck. They lack creativity and ideas :D. lol
gigel82 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Fun, but... how is this not already taken down by copyright strikes? I mean straight rips of audio assets, music, 3d assets, graphics, even the damn name...
noah640090 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
This was really fun!
seattle_spring [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Holy moly, just hearing those sound effects gives me a giant wave of nostalgia.
johng [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Really cool game. Spent about 30 minutes playing it. Very fun!
jonenst [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Wake up, Hank. That game ain’t gonna play itself. Oh wait it does.
lgessler [3 hidden]5 mins ago
This is, respectfully, slop piggybacking on nostalgic associations with stolen assets.
jdw64 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
nice game
bigwheels [3 hidden]5 mins ago
See also: D2 Survivors https://d2survivors.lol/

The AI games mashups are starting to heat up.

cyh555 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
so nice!
theylieeasieral [3 hidden]5 mins ago
slop