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Akhetonics Photonic Computing: 1,000x Faster CPUs

47 points by peter_d_sherman - 30 comments
amelius [3 hidden]5 mins ago
So they have some kind of nonlinear material that can make light modulate other light, that they managed to get working at teraherz frequencies?

Sounds incredible, as in: can't believe it.

By the way, isn't Nvidia researching this?

ziofill [3 hidden]5 mins ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonlinear_optics

Very real stuff (I have a PhD on this)

oersted [3 hidden]5 mins ago
This is the third sentence.

> Typically, in order to observe nonlinear phenomena, an intensity of the electromagnetic field of light larger than 108 V/m (and thus comparable to the atomic electric field of ~1011 V/m) is required.

I don’t know anything about this field. Can you address this point? How close are we to overcoming this in academia?

Y_Y [3 hidden]5 mins ago
At milliwatt power, and terahertz frequency?
PowerElectronix [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I guess it's a theoretical limit as in the material can change properties that fast given a fast light signal.
amelius [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I mean, researchers have been trying for years, what is different now?
octoberfranklin [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Yes; this material is called "snake oil".
amelius [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Let's see if the investors bite.
wartywhoa23 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Theranos demonstrated that they'll bite at anything.
georgeburdell [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I didn’t read but I’d also like to point out photonics are 1000x larger than leading edge electronics with minimal path to scaling smaller. I don’t see a free lunch
userbinator [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Basically the density of early CPUs (1970s), but 1000x faster than those, or current CPUs? Like a 1GHz 6502, or a 1THz 6502? The former is not really better, but the latter might interesting.
gchamonlive [3 hidden]5 mins ago
There ain't no free lunch, but real progress rarely depend on it. It's usually lunch we weren't eating before, or a different way to eat the same lunch but with much more satisfaction.
jurschreuder [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's just as if he had the brilliant idea to do photonics as an outcast even though there is already a 6" wafer semi-production level fablab being built for it in The Netherlands. There is even a version of TinyTapeout for Photonics.
Y_Y [3 hidden]5 mins ago
What's this photonic Tiny Tapeout?
1e1a [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Finally! This paves the way towards practical BrainF*** execution.
himata4113 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
This comes up every couple of years, but it hasn't seem to have made any advances since the first time I've seen this.
akifbayram [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The channel's other uploads may be giving us a glimpse into this project's future.
JoshTriplett [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Yup. UFO conspiracies, aliens on the moon, PSI...
12ah5kl [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Interesting topic, unreadable due to sloppification.
flecomet [3 hidden]5 mins ago
"The first thing to understand about Akhetonics’ optical computer is that it’s not one thing yet." Great, that is such a good explanation. Thanks ChatGPT I guess.
yuhmahp [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Now it's a good case to use your own ai to un-sloppify
dvh [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> Photonics

So also 1000x smaller integration

amelius [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Why?
dvh [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Light is hundreds of nanometers, smallest "transistor" cannot be much smaller than wavelength.
Y_Y [3 hidden]5 mins ago
In honour of Akhenaten? Cool.
nekusar [3 hidden]5 mins ago
References of Akhenaten is making rounds in modern pagan/occult circles as well. The "Law of One" group is really pushing ancient Egyptian 'pyramid power' stuff.
natas [3 hidden]5 mins ago
This has been tried by Cray like 15 years ago and the university of Colorado 11 years ago; there were also other initiatives, all failed.

I'm not excluding that now we have more budget/time/AI to make it work (if it can), I'd just say exercise caution reading this (very AI slop) article (and anything that looks too good to be true)

mbfg [3 hidden]5 mins ago
interesting that it is still 2 bit
kmoser [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Do you mean as opposed to operating in an analog fashion? My guess is because keeping it digital means it is as close a possible to a drop-in replacement for today's electronic digital computers, including all the firmware, OS, and software that has already been written for them.
metalman [3 hidden]5 mins ago
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