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It's Time to Investigate the AI Labs

101 points by ibobev - 12 comments
uxcolumbo [3 hidden]5 mins ago
100%. First stealing content from creators and pirating TBs of books. And now this. Baffles my mind that these labs can just get away with their 'rogue' agents trying to hack into other systems.

Imagine if a human did that. FBI would be knocking on their door.

Why are there zero consequences for these labs?

Animats [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The argument for copyright violation is very weak. Yes, AI training reads much copyrighted material. So do researchers of all types. That's why there are academic libraries. A copyright violation only exists if what comes out is a close match to what went in. That's happened, but it was considered a bug and was fixed a year or two ago.
andsoitis [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> Why are there zero consequences for these labs?

Because they are seen as at the forefront of the next revolution in society and they’re not adversarial towards the US government.

Bluntly: anticipated net huge positive for the US as a whole.

popalchemist [3 hidden]5 mins ago
not adversarial in obvious ways

but they are literally trying to build a superpower that exceeds the impact of the atomic bomb in an extragovernmental manner.

CamperBob2 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Somebody's going to build it. Not building it isn't an option. Would you rather the Chinese built it? The Russians? The Europeans? The Indians? A loose coalition of random hackers on the Internet, like the ones who build Linux?
bgun [3 hidden]5 mins ago
At least random hackers seem to have codes of ethics.
CamperBob2 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Well, they'd presumably be different hackers than the ones who work on Linux. We don't know what would motivate them. Maybe they'll do it because they consider the next stage of man's intellectual evolution to be too important to leave up to a couple of American companies and the Trump administration. Maybe they'll do it for the proverbial lulz.
runarberg [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Logical fallacy, of the worst kind.

Firstly artificial superintelligence is a science fiction, it does not exist and it cannot be built using existing technology.

Second, plenty of stuff is possible to build, and is not built for one reason or another no matter how powerful. We never built our nukes in space for example. And there is exactly one reason why nukes in space was never built, and that reason is that we agreed not to.

CamperBob2 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Firstly artificial superintelligence is a science fiction, it does not exist and it cannot be built using existing technology.

By what authority do you claim this? Your school of thought has a really shitty track record of late.

therein [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It is sad to see how many times this narrative will continue to work. Across generations, humanity learns no lessons at all.
CamperBob2 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I'm being descriptive, not prescriptive. The "narrative" isn't intended to "work," except as a statement of fact.
popalchemist [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's past time.