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A restored PDP-11/83 serving this page on 211BSD Unix

The box is a restored Q-bus PDP-11/83 named minerva: Mentec M11 CPU, two chassis tied with M9404/M9405, RQDX3, 2xEmulex UC07, KDA50, RLV12, DEQNA, M3104. Storage is RA82 + dual RA92, MFM boot/swap, dual RL02, RX50s, and a TKZ50. OS is 2.11BSD.The live panel is top. /cgi-bin/webtop is the raw snapshot.A 16-bit httpd will not survive the front page, so Varnish/Caddy/Cloudflare cache the HTML and a 5-second webtop sample. Origin is still the 11 itself, and it handles all of the webtop and visitor count requests.Telnet exists (pdp1173.com, guest) but it is a 40-year-old UNIX with no modern security story. Please do not treat it as a challenge box; I can restore from tape, but that ruins it for everyone else.Happy to answer Mentec, MSCP, Q-bus, or 2.11BSD questions.To get BSD running on the Mentec, I had to customize the BSD kernel to use FPSIM, as the Mentec supports IEEE floating-point and NOT the DEC formats.

75 points by davepl - 27 comments

27 Comments

kjs3 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Please do not treat it as a challenge box; I can restore from tape, but that ruins it for everyone else.

Unfortunately, for a disturbing percentage of the Internet, ruining things for everyone else is the goal. I'd turn off telnet.

dwedge [3 hidden]5 mins ago
A PDP-11 serving adverts for an AI-written site in 2026 was not on my bingo card. Imagine being brought back from the dead for that.
nancyminusone [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Unfortunately, this is just Dave "I wrote Task Manager" Plummer's handwriting.
ok123456 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Dave "fake antivirus software scammer" Plummer

https://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/attorney-general-s...

kev009 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Wow. I can't imagine the thought process of going from accumulating a decade of Microsoft shares and experience during a pivotal era and deciding to plow it into a consumer scam op.
varjag [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Fantastic build.

Do you know by any chance a source for Q-Bus edge sockets?

mikerg87 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I posted this to twostopbits. Community over there is small but devoted to such willful acts of restoration

https://twostopbits.com/item?id=9970

wrs [3 hidden]5 mins ago
What is the giant blinkenlight panel on the right?
jmbwell [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I love it. My PDP-11 has some fault that keeps it blowing fuses. Emulators don’t feel the same. Real hardware doing the work, well done
hinkley [3 hidden]5 mins ago
How about a nice game of chess?
frumplestlatz [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Thanks for keeping the spirit of the old internet alive :)

I hope you won’t have to restore it from tape!

sph [3 hidden]5 mins ago
What in the AI slop is this website? Looks like it's trying to get me to download malware.
dboreham [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Dave Plummer definitely isn't AI.
dallen33 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
He isn't, but nearly everything he puts out there is AI produced. His video thumbnails look awful, and that task manager he built for macOS is fully AI coded. Not saying it's a bad thing, but I dunno it's kinda all ugly looking to me.
budman1 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
as of 12 noon CST, it pings but does not telnet.
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mlmonkey [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Why is the domain `pdp1173.com` when the machine is a PDP 11/83 ?
ktm5j [3 hidden]5 mins ago
There's a couple eyebrow raising things about this post.. like the fact that there's nothing but vague details in text and one photo with an AI prompt like alt-text. I think they're just trying to get clicks for that banner ad.
roryirvine [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Sadly, the site does seem AI-flavoured to a rather off-putting extent.

And, as you say, the details are so vague - it's exactly what you might expect if an LLM wrote them based on reading a spec sheet rather than any practical experience.

In particular, connecting that DEQNA to a modern network must have been a huge challenge all in itself and I'd have expected there to be a series of blog posts about just that. Maybe it's legit (and I'd love more detail if it is), but right now the presentation screams "thinly disguised ad".

spijdar [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I think he has actually posted videos of the restoration before (they've popped up in my youtube feed in the past), but I've never watched them, so dunno. The LLM site design and advertisement front-and-center are certainly a... choice....

But, more importantly, why do you reckon DEQNA would be hard to connect to a modern network? NetBSD still supports it when running on a q-bus VAX: https://github.com/NetBSD/src/blob/trunk/sys/dev/qbus/if_qe....

It has some pretty broken behavior regarding multicast/broadcast traffic IIRC, but nothing putting it behind a vlan or separate LAN altogether wouldn't solve. I've got a little lsi-11 system under my bed I'm hoping to, one day, get the Fuzzball [0] distribution running on. The 22-bit address extension wirewrap the previous owner did needs to be redone entirely, so it's been a "later" project for years now, but I am hoping my little DEQNA will be able to ping the Internet still.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzball_router

roryirvine [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I was assuming that something of that vintage would only have been able to handle a 10BASE5 transceiver, but a wee bit of googling suggests that an UTP transceiver works well enough.

Needs a patched ROM and recompiled kernel, though! See http://www.cosam.org/computers/dec/pdp11-23/20080402.html (and the two subsequent installments)

(That cosam.org site is more what I'd be expecting for a project like this, but maybe I'm just too old and grumpy for my own good!)

dboreham [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Dave posts frequently about his work, some on YouTube and some on Facebook. You have to be in the right groups on FB.
cube00 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
While probably it's legit because I've seen Dave discussing the process on the YT channel (which I no longer watch) he unfortunately does have form https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39813625

Having TMOG on a .org when it sells commercial licences doesn't sit well with me given the history.

roryirvine [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Oh, yeah - this popped up on HN yesterday too and also met with scepticism: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49772362

Oh well, so this PDP restoration probably isn't real. Disappointing.

dboreham [3 hidden]5 mins ago
What's not real about it?
ktm5j [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I'm a little confused by your comment.. especially considering the fact that you edited it and changed the link from and old comment thread from 2024 to whatever this dead post is from 2012. What does having form mean? Who is Dave?
cube00 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Sorry, lost the last digit, fixed now. This restored PDP-11/83 project is Dave Plummer's