The main thing that stood out to me was, unlike many other micro/minimalist blogging platforms, textlog has individual notes (as opposed to blogs) as the primary unit. I feel that this choice often makes it psychologically easier for users to post something quickly without getting stuck on managing their blog’s brand and identity. Nothing wrong with the latter, but it comes with a trade-off.
And I really like the visual design: very clean and minimalistic, but also pleasant.
toplinesoftsys [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I like this project. Simple, open-source, nice UI.
Natalia724 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Agreed. A documented data export or stable feed would complement the minimal UI well: it would let a quiet service stay intentionally simple without making a user's archive feel trapped.
For those that never had an opportunity to see it.
cgannett [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Old web vibes!
knlb [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I recently started a section on my personal site for absolutely minimal and simple microblogging that I could Ctrl-F through: https://knlb.dev/scribbles/ -- I should probably give this a shot.
stagas [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Hey, nice! If you want to try it, we have an API[0] you can pull your user feed from!
I really like this approach. I wonder if it needs such complexity for the rendering. Could you have built this as a SSG template?
stagas [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Hi, thanks! There is a lot of nuance on the rendered pages, I figured server-side React was the best choice - plus it's a technology I'm comfortable with and might also encourage contributions.
anoojb [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Would you be okay if I directed Claude to leverage your design and build a very simple Hugo template against it for my own personal use?
stagas [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Why not, try it :)
sentinel1909 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Signed up, will use it. Having trouble seeing how long this will actually exist though, because people are miserable and it WILL be ruined.
> Notes are limited to 280 characters. The constraint keeps them quick to write and read, making room for one thought at a time.
No thanks.
stagas [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Hi, I'm sorry you don't like the limitation :( this is for short thoughts you want to share, not really huge conversations, there are better places for that IMO.
BeetleB [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The character limit is, in my opinion, the primary reason Twitter became so bad. It encourages absolute language (qualifiers take up characters!) It discourages any level of nuance.
I use Mastodon which has a 500 limit, and even that sometimes is not enough.
rowbin [3 hidden]5 mins ago
What do you mean with "became bad"? It started out with a 140 characters limit in 2006 and kept that for more than 10 years. So its the other way around: it became worse, when the character limit increased. Though I don't think its due to the character limit either way.
BeetleB [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It was bad long before they increased the character limit.
Saying shitty/toxic stuff can be done concisely. Giving a nuanced response is simply not possible. So people respond with jokes/sarcasm/counter toxic stuff. And the cycle continues.
childintime [3 hidden]5 mins ago
well, you may consider rewarding known quality users with an extended limit, say double. the others can pay ;)
Gooblebrai [3 hidden]5 mins ago
That's how enshittification begins. Next thing you know and there are blue badges next to profiles.
stagas [3 hidden]5 mins ago
lol Yes enshittification is the thing I want to avoid, so hard decisions need to be made that will not make everybody happy. Still, this is open-source[0], so we can open a discussion (ideally alongside a PR) and evolve it.
haha, yeah good idea. Also customize the theme as others wanted. So many opportunities here. :P
supermatt [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The 280 char limit seems arbitrary, given you cant even keep the about page within that limit: https://textlog.cc/about
If you are going to limit it to short posts, maybe the length of a short post is the length to limit it to, rather than emulating the 2xSMS of every twitter clone?
Other than that, it looks really clean and neat - I just dont think being 280 chars adds anything other than resulting in people posting with pagination as per X 1/3.
helterskelter [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I like the idea of a shorter character limit as it nudges users to a specific mode of interaction: short thoughts/updates and not long-winded soliloquies. It's signalling that interaction with this platform doesn't demand much of your time or attention. I don't know what the about page has to do with it, but you have to draw the line somewhere.
That said, I'm not a social media user besides HN I guess.
supermatt [3 hidden]5 mins ago
For perspective: you just commented 404 chars. Your first paragraph alone was 346.
My comment on the about page was that it needed more than 280 chars to communicate what the app is about - even the title + intro exceeds the limit.
If it is truly believed that 280 chars is enough to communicate an idea, then the about page should follow that philosophy.
stagas [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I'm considering raising to 500. Care enough to open an issue[0] so that maybe there is a discussion we can track?
Honestly, I don't really care that much. The project looks like fun, and I wish you the best with it, but I don't really post on microblogging platforms myself.
I just wanted to give a bit of feedback as someone who reads them - and point out that on almost every twitter/bluesky submission to HN they are using ways to work around the 280/300 char limitations.
To play devils advocate - 500 also seems a bit arbitrary ;) If I were making a platform like this myself, I would go for a power of 2 that makes sense for storage/buffering. Maybe 1KiB including all meta, etc. You could comfortably fit a post the size of your about page, and all associated meta in that - even when serialised as JSON or something. I'd go from there and work backwards to come up with a size that has a real technical purpose.
krapp [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Make it a setting and let people decide for themselves.
stagas [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It needs to be short - there is already a limit that worked well - why bikeshed it more?
supermatt [3 hidden]5 mins ago
A limit that worked well for who?
Almost every twitter/x post submitted to HN has people labelling their posts as "X of Y" threads, using images as text, or using pro account posts.
"Some popular social networks such as X (formerly Twitter), Threads, Tumblr, Mastodon, and Bluesky can be viewed as collections of microblogs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microblogging
CitrusFruits [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I think this is the opposite of bikeshedding, it's literally a core feature and constraint.
indigodaddy [3 hidden]5 mins ago
You could fork and do whatever no?
supermatt [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Sure, but I don't care that much. It is a Show HN, so I was giving feedback.
bryanhogan [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I built something for a similar goal, make it easy for someone to start their blog. But instead it's a static website, clone the repo, adjust the config.ts, write the posts in markdown, host anywhere: https://starter.bryanhogan.com/
I'm a certified dark mode hater, so in that light, that's a no-go for me: there seems to be no way to change the theme.
stagas [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It picks up your system theme, so you can't be dark mode hater since you're already using it for your OS :P i didn't want to complicate it with user settings yet, but it can be added if there is demand.
0cf8612b2e1e [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Maybe OP customized the system “dark theme” to be extra light.
(which is their service, and most of their comments are just promotion for their services)
albertfranquesa [3 hidden]5 mins ago
i'm experiencing a weird scenario. all time is asking me for a magic link :( I click on that link and again the same screen, ask for a magic link (said the old one expired). It may be our mimecast blocking something?
stagas [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Uhm maybe your client visits the magic link eagerly and when you visit it manually it's already been used?
albertfranquesa [3 hidden]5 mins ago
i worked with my gmail but not corporate. mimecast does something wrong
Interesting! My biggest reaction is I don't use Emacs. Is Emacs a requirement? You're right that Org adds features but it also shrinks the pool of people who will try this.
andros [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's not necessary. I almost always use iOS.
nbbaier [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I think twtxt is really cool. I have one on my site but I don't use it, unfortunately
HN.zip
The main thing that stood out to me was, unlike many other micro/minimalist blogging platforms, textlog has individual notes (as opposed to blogs) as the primary unit. I feel that this choice often makes it psychologically easier for users to post something quickly without getting stuck on managing their blog’s brand and identity. Nothing wrong with the latter, but it comes with a trade-off.
And I really like the visual design: very clean and minimalistic, but also pleasant.
btw you can write comments yourself Natalia! In fact that’ll keep ya compliant, we’re human-to-human here
[0]: https://textlog.cc/account/edit
[1]: https://textlog.cc/api
[2]: https://github.com/stagas/textlog
For those that never had an opportunity to see it.
[0]: https://textlog.cc/api
> Notes are limited to 280 characters. The constraint keeps them quick to write and read, making room for one thought at a time.
No thanks.
I use Mastodon which has a 500 limit, and even that sometimes is not enough.
Saying shitty/toxic stuff can be done concisely. Giving a nuanced response is simply not possible. So people respond with jokes/sarcasm/counter toxic stuff. And the cycle continues.
[0]: https://github.com/stagas/textlog
If you are going to limit it to short posts, maybe the length of a short post is the length to limit it to, rather than emulating the 2xSMS of every twitter clone?
Other than that, it looks really clean and neat - I just dont think being 280 chars adds anything other than resulting in people posting with pagination as per X 1/3.
That said, I'm not a social media user besides HN I guess.
My comment on the about page was that it needed more than 280 chars to communicate what the app is about - even the title + intro exceeds the limit.
If it is truly believed that 280 chars is enough to communicate an idea, then the about page should follow that philosophy.
[0]: https://github.com/stagas/textlog/issues
I just wanted to give a bit of feedback as someone who reads them - and point out that on almost every twitter/bluesky submission to HN they are using ways to work around the 280/300 char limitations.
To play devils advocate - 500 also seems a bit arbitrary ;) If I were making a platform like this myself, I would go for a power of 2 that makes sense for storage/buffering. Maybe 1KiB including all meta, etc. You could comfortably fit a post the size of your about page, and all associated meta in that - even when serialised as JSON or something. I'd go from there and work backwards to come up with a size that has a real technical purpose.
Almost every twitter/x post submitted to HN has people labelling their posts as "X of Y" threads, using images as text, or using pro account posts.
You can see it yourself: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com Ive just looked at 30 and each of them exceed 280 chars by far.
"Microblogs, for example on Twitter..." https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/microblo...
"Some popular social networks such as X (formerly Twitter), Threads, Tumblr, Mastodon, and Bluesky can be viewed as collections of microblogs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microblogging
https://indieweb.org/twtxt
:thumbs-up: