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German AI consortium releases Soofi S, an open 30B model that tops benchmarks

64 points by amai - 9 comments
jbellis [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It tops benchmarks because it uses them in its training data. https://x.com/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919
sva_ [3 hidden]5 mins ago
sajithdilshan [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Disappointing. Sounds like Volkswagen 2.0
mft_ [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Great to see more competition in this space, and especially from Europe, but... it's a shame when the benchmarks don't include the current best comparable models. They shows results against Qwen 3.5 and Gemma 3, but Qwen 3.6 and Gemma 4 have been available for ~three months.
beklein [3 hidden]5 mins ago
k__ [3 hidden]5 mins ago
"Fully open source model" with "Long-term, license-free availability for industry"

Nice trick to be not comparable with most other LLMs on the market, open weight or proprietary.

But I think, that's the right way.

throwa356262 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I think this news is more about the infrastructure than the model.

Either way, happy to see two open models from outside the us-cn duopoly in the same week.

sajithdilshan [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Better late than never. Germans have entered the chat
petcat [3 hidden]5 mins ago
More like Nemotron 3 with benchmaxxing enabled has (re-)entered the chat.