(2023) but worth being reposted, never got a good HN discussion. Between 8 and 12 July there's DWebCamp [0] and many experts and devs on both protocols are present, so opportunity for some good cross-pollination here.

[0] https://dwebcamp.org

Damn, I could've been there, if I'd known about it

Will content from dwebcamp be online for those unable to make it?

I think so, yes. The videos of the last camp are online as well at https://dwebcamp.org/videos

RSS/webmention > ActivityPub > ATProto

And how does RSS let you move your data to a new host while preserving your identity like AT Proto does?

I don't disagree with the sentiment as I love RSS, but doesn't it have a different use case than ActivityPub or ATProto?

Huge fan of this concept.

I can easily install an ActivityPub server, with Glitch.

Show me the ATProto server that can integrate with BlueSky.

There is no "AT Proto server" - https://overreacted.io/there-are-no-instances-in-atproto/

> I can easily install an ActivityPub server, with Glitch.

Can you? The same Glitch that shut down last year? https://blog.glitch.com/post/goodbye-glitch

Regardless, ActivityPub and ATProto have different designs and goals. Your question is akin to comparing a helicopter and an airplane.

There's no such thing as a "ATProto server". How complicated it is, and the trade-offs it made are valid criticisms of it. It all depends on what exactly your goal is as a participant of a distributed social network.

What does ATProto run on, if not servers? Is it fully decentralised mesh P2P that runs on phones?

Never used it, but I've seen some praise for Snac as an easy to deploy activitypub server

https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2

here https://blog.bront.rodeo/setting-up-your-own-pds/

The answer here would be "there's no such thing as a generic "server" like in ActivityPub because it's split into different components, of which a PDS is only one".

Honestly my main question here is "If you disagree with various ActivityPub instances' defederations, you can get around this by starting your own instance that federates with everything; is there an equivalent for bypassing Bluesky's moderation decisions?"