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Amazon will stop accepting new customers for Mechanical Turk

105 points by bookofjoe - 27 comments
CodesInChaos [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> In a snake-eating-its-own-tail irony, a 2023 analysis found that between 33% and 46% of workers on the platform were using large language models to complete their tasks,

I assume AI use by workers has risen to the point where it renders Mechanical Turk pointless.

skt5 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
This likely means those consuming the outputs of Mechanical Turk don't have a good way to measure the value (aka quality) of the outputs.

If they did - then they shouldn't care whether it's a human or a LLM. And if it's a LLM - then the cost will roughly correlate to the MIN(cost of the LLM, cost of a human) to do the task.

moralestapia [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Yeah, I was doing this kind of Artificial Artificial Artificial Intelligence back in 2012 to make some extra $$$. Glad they finally "patched" that hole ^^.
pc86 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
You were using LLMs in 2012?
subarctic [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Artificial AI = stuff like mechanical turk where they get humans to do stuff computers can't do and make it look like it's "AI"

Artificial Artificial Intelligence = using computers to do mechanical turk jobs

moralestapia [3 hidden]5 mins ago
You wrote the same thing twice, hehe.

But the point gets across.

simlevesque [3 hidden]5 mins ago
They were faking artificial intelligence by using real individuals.
pixel_popping [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Fiverr-5.5 was the leading model back then.
moralestapia [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Not LLMs. (Useful) LLMs came to the market around 2022.
root-parent [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I can see a high value startup, that will provide Human Intelligence with real Humans, locked in the room, with no network, books, LLMs and monitored 24x7 with cameras.
HoldOnAMinute [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Please enjoy each task equally
nullsmack [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I had no idea this was still around.

It helped me buy a Battlefield 2 "Special Forces" expansion pack back in the day.

Well, I could've bought it either way but buying it didn't impact my normal income because I did Mechanical Turk in my free time enough to get it.

obblekk [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Maybe the most unambiguous "ai will automate work" example I've seen yet.

Absolutely does not imply the workers are automated since they can now use the current models to do more complex tasks at the vast number of new AI training data startups.

Turk was simply not designed for greater complexity tasks and so much of their lunch has been eaten by startups specifically built to collect AI training data.

leohonexus [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Where do I find participants for my user studies then?
josefritzishere [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's a shame. Mechanical Turk works better than any AI.
xandrius [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's still AI, just a different type.
CodesInChaos [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The Actually Indian kind?
mghackerlady [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Hey, maybe they're Indonesian!
expedition32 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Ever been to Singapore? Their apartments have a room for a Indonesian maid.

Never underestimate just how cheap human life is!

pwython [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I thought they were Turkish.
shshsjsj [3 hidden]5 mins ago
mild racism, needs to be reported
aswegs8 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's a joke
Faaak [3 hidden]5 mins ago
you can call the police
HoldOnAMinute [3 hidden]5 mins ago
India is not a race, therefore this is not racist.
brokensegue [3 hidden]5 mins ago
personally, i've never had good luck with MT's quality.
baggachipz [3 hidden]5 mins ago
They moved all the Mechanical Turk workers over to robot and autotaxi piloting.
teddyh [3 hidden]5 mins ago
And monitoring of “cashier-free” grocery stores.