From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh...
Seriously, this playing with living organisms to augment their capabilities and make them do our bidding is a bit beyond my personal moral threshold. At this point isn't easier to miniaturize a robot cocroach?
igleria [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I can picture an alien picking me up and making horrible experiments on my body alright, so I understand your worry...
f6v [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's much easier to plug into something perfected by millions of years of selective pressure.
npmaker [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It really depends on a person's moral qualms and how deeply they are felt.
For instance, different people put different amounts of effort in when a rogue house fly enters a room. Some kill, some catch and release.
Which is easier? It really depends on the person and what they are willing to tolerate.
lukan [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Most flies I kill, butterflies and wasps I usually guide out. But catching a insect and injecting electronic into it to force it to move where it does not want is kind of a very different thing to me.
engineer_22 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Very interesting research but can’t help but /feel/ this is abominable
tryagainian [3 hidden]5 mins ago
No more beer, wine, bread, or yogurt for you.
No mushrooms, no meat, and no vegetables.
silver_silver [3 hidden]5 mins ago
This argument is called reductio ad absurdum. It’s often used by people like you who want to prevent others from trying to be better.
sarchertech [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> playing with living organisms to augment their capabilities and make them do our bidding
I think the OP was just highlighting that we do this all the time.
I personally feel like cyborg control goes a step beyond selective breeding and it makes me feel icky too. But we need to talk about what the difference is.
card_zero [3 hidden]5 mins ago
What on earth do you mean? That's a basic form of argument, where you demonstrate that the logic of a proposition leads somewhere ridiculous, or leads to a contradiction.
It reminds me of somebody I knew who thought that metaphors are dishonest and should never be used.
alentred [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It is fun to imagine paleontologists, some millions of years from now, whatever species they will be themselves, finding a fossil of this cockroach and trying to explain it. One thing are humans having hip joint implants, but "why on Earth would they make a diving suite for a cockroach?!"
proee [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Millions of years from now EVERYTHING will be some form of cyborg. So these cockroaches might be THE missing link of when computer and living species first started to merge.
BirAdam [3 hidden]5 mins ago
They’d clearly decide that the cockroach was worshipped.
ch4s3 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I dunno, probably had religious significance.
jdw64 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Looking at the severed parts, it doesn't seem like they'll live long. I wonder how long they'd survive after something like that.
The title says "hours-long diving" so at least a few hours i guess...
doublerabbit [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I am unsure they really care how long it lasts especially when you create something like this.
As long it carries out it mission for a minute of two. Send it to some underwater fibre optic cable and use it as a depth charge to blow it up.
No more requirements for anchors.
frotaur [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Not sure the cockroach cyborg will survive such pressures, already surprised it can survive the few feet of water.
notahan [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Oh god, you can imagine how governments are going to look at this and freak out about espionage. Or worse, use this tech for espionage!!
marcosdumay [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It makes for a good psychologic weapon, like the exploding mice from the 2nd World War...
Except that this time you can check if it's working and optimize it better by listening to people's phones and seeing how they react.
abrugsch [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Reminds me of the scene in The Fifth Element where Tricky is piloting a spy cockroach with a hilariously huge transmitter on it's back...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJxMpTeEf8Q
trhway [3 hidden]5 mins ago
If you knew Russian you could enjoy the hysterics their propaganda were stoking in 2022-23 about alleged "combat mosquitos" the Ukrainians had developed. According to the propaganda the mosquitos were specifically able to target Russians based on DNA (interesting that according to the same propaganda Russians and Ukrainians are the same people - how poor mosquitos were supposed to distinguish between Russians and Ukrainians the propaganda didn't specify though)
macintux [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I can't believe Russia even took that to the UN. Insane.
> ... oxygen generation mechanism of diving suit for cyborg cockroaches
An actual quote from a Nature article
txoria [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The authors of the article deserve to get appropriate controllers inserted right up into their assholes, so they enjoy the operational range it gives to their fucking selves.
UomoNeroNero [3 hidden]5 mins ago
yes, really.....
CompoundEyes [3 hidden]5 mins ago
A related article and the language used to describe the creature matches
> Madagascar hissing cockroach has been used in various applications as a powerful platform
Seriously, this playing with living organisms to augment their capabilities and make them do our bidding is a bit beyond my personal moral threshold. At this point isn't easier to miniaturize a robot cocroach?
For instance, different people put different amounts of effort in when a rogue house fly enters a room. Some kill, some catch and release.
Which is easier? It really depends on the person and what they are willing to tolerate.
No mushrooms, no meat, and no vegetables.
I think the OP was just highlighting that we do this all the time.
I personally feel like cyborg control goes a step beyond selective breeding and it makes me feel icky too. But we need to talk about what the difference is.
It reminds me of somebody I knew who thought that metaphors are dishonest and should never be used.
It looks like something out of CockroachPunk 2077
As long it carries out it mission for a minute of two. Send it to some underwater fibre optic cable and use it as a depth charge to blow it up.
No more requirements for anchors.
Except that this time you can check if it's working and optimize it better by listening to people's phones and seeing how they react.
https://global.espreso.tv/mosquitoes-vs-moscowitoes-reznikov...
This statement summarizes it nicely:
"The purpose of propaganda is not to make you believe something. It is to make you believe nothing.
Then you will do nothing."
https://x.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1909932857948004738
An actual quote from a Nature article
> Madagascar hissing cockroach has been used in various applications as a powerful platform
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-60779-1
THE COCKROACHES CAN ALREADY SURVIVE NUCLEAR WAR.
WHY DO THEY INSIST ON MAKING THEM _STRONGER_?!