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An interview with an Apple emoji designer

65 points by nate - 33 comments
9dev [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> We mapped almost 1:1 to SoftBank’s set, though Apple chose to omit a few of the more risqué ones.

Which are these risqué emojis mentioned here? I don't think I have ever seen any that are even slightly graphic, which is probably why all the emoji slang conventions have spread like fire (Aubergine, Peach, etc.)

pimlottc [3 hidden]5 mins ago
That's a good question. Comparing the Softbank emoji from June 2008 [0] and the initial batch of Apple emoji that shipping in iPhone OS 2.2 (Nov 2008) [1], it doesn't look like there are any missing at all, it's a perfect 1:1 mapping.

0: https://emojipedia.org/softbank/2008

1: https://emojipedia.org/apple/iphone-os-2.2

stringfood [3 hidden]5 mins ago
long eggplant and a smaller Pinching Hand emoji were probably the first to go
ollien [3 hidden]5 mins ago
If the author is reading this, the hyperlink to the book in the first paragraph is broken. Looks like it's attempting to direct you to an absolute url that was meant to be relative.

    <a href="https://books/face-with-tears-of-joy">
holistio [3 hidden]5 mins ago
There is still no walnut emoji. Blonde-haired, black-skinned pregnant man? Yes. Walnut? No.
wpm [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Be the petty, small change you wish to see in the world: https://joypixels.com/blog/how-to-submit-an-emoji-to-unicode
holistio [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I will be. Thanks.

By the way, Walnut Creek is less than 100 miles from Cupertino.

I love walnuts.

Jtarii [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Gotta love websites that hijack basic browser functions, in this case forcing smooth scroll on.
embedding-shape [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Seems to be some sort of design agency or similar, it's basically internet-law at this point that those always fuck with the scroll movements of your browser, for some reason.
hbn [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I love the pregnant man emoji, I use it all the time after a big meal
j1000 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Also no thief emoji or pirate emoji. Can someone enlighten me why we don't have it?
hbn [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I was looking for a pirate emoji like 5 minutes ago. I'm sure it's not the first time but I'm super surprised that still isn't in there. Seems so obvious.
dagmx [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Simply because nobody has successfully pitched the Unicode group to add one.

Anyone can pitch new emoji, they just have to go through the fairly easy but strict formal process.

blanched [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Alex Schmidt, a humor writer (formerly of Cracked and others) did this process for the bison emoji. I enjoyed his “miniseries” about it: https://www.bisonemojipodcast.com/
basch [3 hidden]5 mins ago
does the reverse notebooklm exist yet that turns podcasts into longform journalism?
blanched [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Not that I know of. And I generally prefer written pieces to podcasts :).

The show notes for episode 2 have good references (no fun commentary though): https://www.bisonemojipodcast.com/show-notes

wvbdmp [3 hidden]5 mins ago
What’s next, a cowboy emoji? A ninja emoji? But seriously, as much as I like emojis, I kind of feel like they should stick to emotions. Maybe other intangible things. They’re hard to convey verbally (and succinctly), simple concrete nouns are good for a bit of fun and for UI icons, but really not very useful if we’re being honest. Unless you’re texting with a lizard, or my lazy elementary-school niece who shouldn’t really have a phone anyway…
holistio [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Or you're texting with people whose native language uses a logographic system.
carrozo [3 hidden]5 mins ago
still no Guillotine Emoji either, although not for a lack of trying.

https://www.carrozo.com/guillotine-emoji

aforty [3 hidden]5 mins ago
So cool to get the background story on this. I remember adding the Japanese keyboard here in the US just so I could get access to emojis.
amelius [3 hidden]5 mins ago
In case anyone is actually interested in the emoji:

https://emojipedia.org/apple

Aissen [3 hidden]5 mins ago
More specifically, it was this set: https://emojipedia.org/apple/iphone-os-2.2

Interesting tidbit:

> Emoji support required iPhone OS 2.2 and a SoftBank SIM card.

TazeTSchnitzel [3 hidden]5 mins ago
These are very nostalgic. The way Apple's emoji look has subtly changed since then.
amelius [3 hidden]5 mins ago
To be honest, the images look like things I've seen a hundred times over in comic books and not much more original than GenAI.
reaperducer [3 hidden]5 mins ago
not much more original than GenAI.

What exactly do you think the "GenAI" trained on?

throawayonthe [3 hidden]5 mins ago
is that not sorta the point? i don't get the genai reference
Tepix [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Are the emojis on Apple (macOS, iOS etc) vector graphics these days?
LoganDark [3 hidden]5 mins ago
They are not. They are perhaps higher resolution than they once were, but still raster:

https://logandark.net/files/328S6690-9Q368809-16843Q53-RR2SN...

NoSalt [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Why does that site feel like I am reading typed text on paper?
CharlesW [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's a combination of the layout, the typeface (https://monokrom.no/fonts/satyr), and the thoughtful typography.
alnwlsn [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Serif font?
reaperducer [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Did you print it out?
NoSalt [3 hidden]5 mins ago
LOL