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Microsoft account bugs locked me out of Notepad – Are thin clients ruining PCs?

41 points by josephcsible - 33 comments
wlesieutre [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> I'm still a Windows guy, and I always will be.

And this is exactly why Microsoft can get away with a buggy mess of a user hostile operating system.

They only have an incentive to make a good OS if people are willing to leave when it’s a bad one.

BadBadJellyBean [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I think saying "I'm a _______ guy" with any brand or company filling that blank can be a big problem. Most companies are there to make money and loyalty is often a one way street.

From my view it is more productive to find out what you like about something and always be open to maybe finding someone else who can deliver on that. And sometimes things that we thought were essential are not. You might even find something new to like.

wrs [3 hidden]5 mins ago
"I'm still a _______ guy, and I always will be."

No matter what trademark you put in the blank, this is not a healthy thing to say.

embedding-shape [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Yeah, not sure how people form almost "relationships" with their tools and refuse sometimes to even explore options. I'm always open to switching almost anything. I never end up doing, because things are usually not better, but maybe 1/100 times something is better, and then I switch. Initially did that around Ubuntu 9.10 before, and I'll switch away from Arch in a heartbeat if anything better comes around.

Edit: I realize now that the article author, the person in the video and the quoted tweet are all the same person, and they seem to work/run windowscentral.com, so I guess that kind of explains the motivation.

expedition32 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Honestly as a deeply antisocial person the Linux cult has always rubbed me the wrong way. Same reason why I don't have an iPhone.
lousken [3 hidden]5 mins ago
exactly, he's part of a problem
billy99k [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I could also say the Linux desktop creators are the problem as well. It's so buggy, it makes it impossible for me to switch.
prmoustache [3 hidden]5 mins ago
This doesn't make any sense as there is not a linux desktop but multiples and the major ones have been less buggy than windows for the most part of the last 20 years.

Hardware support is where Linux used to struggle. Nowadays things aren't perfect but much better. Basically it means you need to figure out which hardware to buy based on available support, before making the purchase.

thot_experiment [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I cannot see myself installing Windows 11, it's sad, I've been primarily a windows guy for my home computer since W95 and I'll miss it. Windows 10 (LTSC) has been the best operating system experience of my life, once I disabled updates and all the nag screens it's been rock solid for me for many years. It's so important to be able to trust that your computer works the same way tomorrow as it does today.

I hope that there's enough people like me that the combined community will keep it alive for a few years longer, but I know eventually something will force me to upgrade to Linux.

wishfish [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Author implies he was using a local account at the time of the error. Which answers an important question. I'd heard of people with Microsoft accounts getting locked out of their own computers, but that's a first I've heard of basic apps failing with a local account.
chrisjj [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> I couldn't open Notepad ... an error (0x803f8001) with Microsoft Store's licensing service stopped me

I wonder if it works at all when no online connection to that store.

lousken [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Switch to linux, don't look back
havaloc [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I work in academia and I've gotten most of my people to switch to Macs and no, Linux is not an option here.

I have about eight Windows PCs against about sixty MacBook Airs and guess which platform causes me the most work? 1:20 issue ratio. Even simple things like SMB in Windows 11 are hopelessly broken.

leoedin [3 hidden]5 mins ago
What makes Linux not an option? Is there specific apps you need to use? Or IT policies? Or something else?

The company I work for got bought by a big conglomerate, and I managed to stubbornly hold out using Linux for a really long time. It turns out if your workplace has adopted “Bring your own device” type policies, that often means you can auth with enough services that working on Linux is feasible.

vhalan [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I only use my windows machine because I can swap out parts stuff and is more hackable but macos is so much more beautifully designed.

Sometimes I prefer one machine over the other I rarely wish for anything other than sometimes being unable to transfer data between the two systems.

josephcsible [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> I only use my windows machine because I can swap out parts stuff and is more hackable but macos is so much more beautifully designed.

That's definitely a good reason to use a PC instead of a Mac, but why not run Linux on it? Then you'd get the best of both worlds.

mh- [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I would not describe the Linux desktop experience as the best of both Mac and Windows.

Let's go with different, a different world.

chrisjj [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> I couldn't open Notepad ... an error (0x803f8001) with Microsoft Store's licensing service stopped me

I wonder if it works at all with no online connection to that store.

fsflover [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Reminds me of this MacOS problem: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25074959
Barrin92 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
>I don't want people to switch away from Windows; I want Microsoft to treat its premier operating system like it used to.[...] and Windows 12 is ultimately an agentic AI OS, I wouldn't be surprised if more people stick with a debloated Windows 11, just as others did with Windows 10

Is there any justification for the first part other than that the authors job at windowscentral.com depends on it? Because I'm not seeing it in the article which amounts to the digital version of Stockholm syndrome. If even the author is predicting that this is what the next windows will look like, why aren't you running for the hills

plagiarist [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The subscription to his own machine had bugs that prevented him from using a basic windowed text editor and that isn't the last straw?
Aloha [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I believe this is related to known issues with KB5074109

It hit Both Win11 24H2 and 25H2.

userbinator [3 hidden]5 mins ago
To be clear, this is the horrible "new" Notepad "app" that I absolutely hated and instantly removed when it was forced upon everyone. I doubt the old "edit field in a wrapper" one which has been nearly the same since Win95 has this problem.

(My newest machine is now running Linux.)

AviationAtom [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Markdown support and the like are useful but their need to cram AI and account sign-in into it definitely seemed over the top. When they got rid of Wordpad I kind of anticipated them trying to pivot Notepad more in that direction.
ale42 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
For what it matters, Windows Server 2025 still has the edit field in a wrapper.
James_K [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The renaming of “my computer” to “this PC” was quite telling.
sandworm101 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Every horrible windows story is yet another glorious day for linux.

Fyi, in Mint if you search application for "notepad", "Text Editor" is the first result. That is curated search done right. Search for notepad on windows and you probably get an ad for a travel website.

aruggirello [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> That is curated search done right.

Adding keywords in the relevant .desktop files should be enough to make this work in other DE's too. I just tried it in KDE (by adding a 'comment=... (like notepad)' line in ~/.local/share/applications/org.kde.kwrite.desktop), it works as expected

AviationAtom [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Cinnamon is cool and all but I prefer KDE Plasma. It seems to eliminate all the pain points Linux desktop environments typically have and everything just works. Pair it with Debian and you got a solid system.
avtar [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> Pair it with Debian

A KDE dev mentioned on a podcast that issues related to Debian Stable get closed automatically on their bug tracker because fixes don't get backported :/

https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1pneqp4/kde_dev_do_n...

My wife was complaining about Windows issues so I ended up installing Fedora with KDE on her laptop. I would have preferred Debian but using Testing (as suggested by the dev) doesn't some ideal.

plagiarist [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It just makes sense to show travel deals. Why would an OS show text editors when searching for text editors? Obviously it can show something far more lucrative by matching what it knows from spyware AI taking screenshots of your every action.
Animats [3 hidden]5 mins ago
How can Microsoft legally do that? Notepad++ is GPL-licensed open source. It's on Github.[1]

[1] https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus

neRok [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Notepad++ isn't [Windows Notepad](https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9msmlrh6lzf3)