Maybe these aren't the "same men", but it's interesting that men see and admit this phenomenon exists in the reverse (Men prefer cuter/sportier/more natural looking women and that a lot of what women do to look good is meant to appeal to other women) but not the reverse?
But even I can sort of look at the two pictures, and my gut reaction is, I'd like to look like the guy on the right, but I'd rather be friends with the guy on the left. Maybe it's a feeling of safety? Maybe a little pudge is like imagining being curled up on a warm sofa rather than a cot of metal coils? But then maybe, just to sort of give this a little credence. While I'd like to be friends with the guy on the left. There is a part of me that's like. Maybe I'd ask the guy on the right for advice on my stock portfolio? Tips to get ahead in the workplace? I do value some of those things, but not in my close personal life. I am transactional in the spaces it matters.
"It is, after all, a special case of the central liberal delusion that all people are the same"
lol this was not going the direction I thought, this person apparently has the completely opposite thesis I do.
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Another interpretation might be. I don't know whether to call this class based or what, but I think there's sort of a divide in the world around what people think there role is.
Like I think my role is to be relatively, I dunno, sort of pro-social. "Middle Class" It's not that I don't occasionally find like models and celebrities attractive, and it's not that I don't gaze at women, but like I don't think it's my role to maximally optimize the partner I'm looking for. Partially probably because I'm an awkward weird nerd, but I'm mostly looking to find the person that best complements me, not the person that maximizes my social value.
But like so many people can't seem to imagine that there are people in this world that don't see things in a completely transactional darwinian way, as evidenced by the core narrative the author recites, and I sort of can't see the opposite - why one would put objective value/beauty over subjective happiness.
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But even I can sort of look at the two pictures, and my gut reaction is, I'd like to look like the guy on the right, but I'd rather be friends with the guy on the left. Maybe it's a feeling of safety? Maybe a little pudge is like imagining being curled up on a warm sofa rather than a cot of metal coils? But then maybe, just to sort of give this a little credence. While I'd like to be friends with the guy on the left. There is a part of me that's like. Maybe I'd ask the guy on the right for advice on my stock portfolio? Tips to get ahead in the workplace? I do value some of those things, but not in my close personal life. I am transactional in the spaces it matters.
"It is, after all, a special case of the central liberal delusion that all people are the same"
lol this was not going the direction I thought, this person apparently has the completely opposite thesis I do.
Like I think my role is to be relatively, I dunno, sort of pro-social. "Middle Class" It's not that I don't occasionally find like models and celebrities attractive, and it's not that I don't gaze at women, but like I don't think it's my role to maximally optimize the partner I'm looking for. Partially probably because I'm an awkward weird nerd, but I'm mostly looking to find the person that best complements me, not the person that maximizes my social value.
But like so many people can't seem to imagine that there are people in this world that don't see things in a completely transactional darwinian way, as evidenced by the core narrative the author recites, and I sort of can't see the opposite - why one would put objective value/beauty over subjective happiness.