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Customize Nano Text Editor (2022)

147 points by shafiemoji - 50 comments
its_notjack [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I must have used nano for years at this point, and I'm shocked to find out how customisable nano actually is! I tend to use micro[0] on most of my systems now just because it comes with really lovely defaults and keybindings that are a bit more familiar, but this might make me take a second look at nano in future.

[0] https://micro-editor.github.io/

tpoacher [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It's not just customisable, it's also insanely scriptable. Any action that you can do in nano itself corresponds to a command, and you can create "string macros" that you can bind to key combinations. Additionally it can execute external commands on any nano buffer and return the result. Combining the two is very powerful.

E.g. I have a configuration which allows me to use nano while editing pdf side-by-side, and be able to click on the pdf and land in the correct line in nano, and vice-versa. (and obviously compiling the latex document itself happens via a custom keystroke).

digisign [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Before I used micro & ne I used nano, and configured the keybindings to work in the CUA style. I still have the dot files, didn't delete them, but they rarely get used anymore.

I think they recently added Ctrl+S to save by default, even if unconfigured, woohoo.

smartmic [3 hidden]5 mins ago
For CUA aficionados, I recommend dte[0]. It has replaced my nano usage quite a lot.

[0]: https://craigbarnes.gitlab.io/dte/index.html

noisem4ker [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I personally like msedit.

https://github.com/microsoft/edit

genpfault [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> Ctrl+S to save

XOFF ignored, mumble mumble

flkiwi [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Same same. Never even occurred to me to look. That's the risk of a (successful) low-friction product though: you use it in quick bursts where the tool is necessary but largely invisible, and you never invest in learning more about it because it works so well with the defaults. There's probably a profound strategic insight buried in there somewhere.
p4bl0 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I tried a long time ago [1,2] to initiate this discussion on Nano here. I'm glad it's happening :).

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41289141

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41289773

kapitanjakc [3 hidden]5 mins ago
10 years, I've been using nano as my editor.

10 years I've spent mastering the shortcuts.

I have been using nano in hard mode.

These configs will make my life so much easier.

chawyehsu [3 hidden]5 mins ago
It seems few people are aware of how customizable nano actually is. Usually, they use nano with the default preset for quick bootstrapping tasks and then switch to vim without hesitation. While vim/neovim are certainly very powerful, nano remains my go-to editor for many quick terminal operations. I've customized it quite a bit[1], especially the key bindings, though the defaults are already excellent.

[1]: https://github.com/chawyehsu/dotfiles/blob/main/.config/nano...

davidcollantes [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I would dearly love it if you could comment a little bit more that nanorc. I am going to “steal” some of it, for sure. Thank you much for sharing it!
gorgoiler [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Nano is quite a venerable piece of software with the initial implementation shipping as pico, the text editor for the pine mail client, back in 1992. Tens of thousands of students at a few universities will have been introduced to it as their very first email client.

The pine authors fell foul of the Debian free software guidelines and, as well as nano, a clone for the mail client itself lives on to this day as alpine. I use it every so often for a spot of nostalgia.

bombcar [3 hidden]5 mins ago
This is exactly my path to it, and even though I know how to “eat flaming death” vi and used emacs for awhile, nano is still my default “edit that config file quickly”.
sanex [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Nano is my go-to whenever doing something quick in the terminal. It's quick, I don't need to learn how to use it, and now it's going to be slightly more convenient. I had no idea it had these options. Thank you!
bigstrat2003 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Nano is by far the best terminal editor imo. The only situation where I'm using a terminal editor is when I'm ssh'ed into a server, and I need to quick edit a file (for serious code writing a GUI editor is far more capable). Nano is ideal for that use case: you get in, it tells you what all the relevant keybinds are right on the screen, and you get out without any fuss.
notepad0x90 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
My struggle is that I work on lots of systems, sometimes ephemeral/temporary systems. There is no easy way to "sync" customizations, so I adapt to defaults.

Even basic things like how shell history is managed is very annoying to configure every single time. if only it was as simple as cloning your private github repo to ~/.config.

mikkupikku [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I use a very customized emacs/evil setup, and before that a very customized vim/neovim setup, but I've never had trouble jumping onto systems where only plain Jane vi is available. I think it's because of the color scheme, or lack thereof, that I don't have any problem automatically switching. If I don't see my color scheme, by fingers just automatically use vi compatible bindings and I don't find myself expecting my other customizations to be present.

Maybe not everybody can switch so easily, but I think it's worth trying out. (One change that absolutely does trip me up is capslock->control. If I try using somebody else's computer, I constantly enable capslock by accident.)

tom_ [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Cloning a github repo to ~/.emacs.d is how you can cart around your Emacs config. I've been doing this for years, and it works nicely. For things configured by files that live in the home folder directly (e.g., shell - and looks like Nano would be similar?), I've got another repo with a couple of install scripts that create symlinks to the version-controlled files. I don't love the extra steps, but I've found this works pretty well too.

Most of the time, I can manage without, but every now and again I've needed to do some thing or other, and I've been grateful to have my own preferred setup rather than somebody else's.

skydhash [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I don't really sync my config. I just scp or wget files when I need them. I have some config as gists, as snippets in my notes, as public files in a webserver under a subdomain.
wahlis [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Check out Chezmoi (https://chezmoi.io). They even offer a nice comparison table for alternatives.
blakesterz [3 hidden]5 mins ago
They also have a nice cheat sheet there: https://nano-editor.org/cheatsheet.html
thejbo [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I actually prefer 'constantshow' instead of 'linenumbers'. That way if you want to select/copy some text from the terminal it doesn't include those line numbers.
jasperry [3 hidden]5 mins ago
The line numbers and position bar are some real quality-of-life enhancements!

I don't regularly use nano anymore, but I have often thought that more programs should imitate the way it shows the command shortcuts on-screen as a kind of instant tutorial. I remember my physics major friends in college thinking it was pure snobbery for vi not to do that by default. Back then we were dialing in to an HP-UX server and using pico, which nano is an open-source clone of. For those who aren't aware, pico was originally the editor component of the Pine email client.

mystifyingpoi [3 hidden]5 mins ago
> physics major friends in college thinking it was pure snobbery for vi

I don't think it is snobbery, that approach would clutter the entire screen. Basically every single small/capital letter and symbol has a function in vim.

jasperry [3 hidden]5 mins ago
To its credit, vim does show a help text with :q on it if you start it with no file. Back then, it was just vi opening to a blank screen.
qsort [3 hidden]5 mins ago
set shortmess+=I
ziotom78 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Absolutely, the shortcut help is so useful!

I believe that Nano and Pico copied it from Wordstar.

dv35z [3 hidden]5 mins ago
What would it take to have "vim-wiki" for nano (see also: FOAM, Obsidian)? I have always admired nano for how simple and easy to use it is, and would love to use it for wiki/obsidian-style note taking & linking...
gh02t [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Nano doesn't really support any sort of scripting or plugins beyond macro sequences AFAIK. So, not really in the same sense as something like vim-wiki etc. You might be able to cobble together something with shell scripts and text files, but it won't be well integrated.
spidermonkey23 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I just did this for some of my setups recently, using the minibar and constantshow settings.easy to cut and paste without line numbers enabled too
SilentM68 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Thank you, looking for way to set tab to 2 spaces for eons without success! Very helpful :)
Narishma [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Is it possible to apply some of the settings like autoindent or line numbers only when editing source code? In other words, does it have different modes like emacs?
pantalaimon [3 hidden]5 mins ago
A lot of those are also command line options, so you can just make an alias.
jdorfman [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I’ve been using nano as my default bash profile editor for over 15 years. It’s also great for quick updates for other config files.

Definitely going to enable mouse support. Didn’t know that was possible.

tracker1 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Also worth a look, if you want more TUI..

https://github.com/microsoft/edit

iLoveOncall [3 hidden]5 mins ago
If you're on Mac and can't get .nanorc to work, check out https://stackoverflow.com/a/73373788/3876196

It's also possible that you simply do NOT have nano installed at all, and just have the simlink from nano to pico by default. That was my case. In this situation, install nano and it should work.

positron26 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Right after the nano maintainer got bullied out by the FSF, I noticed two bindings got their defaults changed. They never change. I almost feel like it was graffiti, a flex against the old maintainer, a retribution for not doing whatever the FSF wanted.

Since forever, GNU readline programs and nano had identical bindings. I'm fast moving around the CLI because I'm fast at nano. Emacs has the same defaults. What sane organization only abandons their own defaults and prioritizes that work after pushing the existing maintainer out (or irritating them enough to accomplish this)?

kstrauser [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Which bindings changed?
positron26 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
bind ^F forward main

bind ^B back main

bind M-f nextword main

bind M-b prevword main

reaperducer [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Note that for the last few versions of macOS, "nano" is symlinked to pico.
threatofrain [3 hidden]5 mins ago
What about LSP?
akatsutki [3 hidden]5 mins ago
better than vim
bilekas [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Don't quite agree, it's simply a different tool, that's like saying notepad is better than vscode. They're both different purpose builds.
SilentM68 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
I would say that every tool has its good and bad.

A tool is only as good as its ease of use and clarity of its documentation, imho.

bigstrat2003 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Wouldn't that make vi(m) just about the worst tool to exist? There's a reason that the "how do I exit vim" jokes exist, it's because the UI is awful unless you already know how to use it.
suprjami [3 hidden]5 mins ago
God forbid having to learn how to use something useful. Don't ever take up programming.
qsort [3 hidden]5 mins ago
no
Ekaros [3 hidden]5 mins ago
Did you know Nano supports mouse? Alt+M... Not that I use that much, but it is fun fact.
p4bl0 [3 hidden]5 mins ago
This is the very first item in the linked blog post.